Talk:Weather

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Rewrite

I've done a major rewrite of this page. I hope it is now more concise and relevant; it should now be clear what weather can occur on what planet types. I've added icons to the headings. Weather types now use the in-game name (e.g. Cinder Shower instead of Embers).

I'll add a History section ASAP to record information that was previously present and specified when a weather effect was added or removed.

It would be appreciated if someone with experience on the removed weather effects could review, expand and clean up that section. For the most part, it's exactly the same as it was before my rewrite with only minor changes.

I'm also curious about two weather effects: Spacedust and Small Meteorites. It's stated that spacedust can occur on Asteroid Fields, but I've personally not seen one. They also don't have an icon in the Navigation console? For small meteorites, have they really been removed? Are Small Meteorites (in dangerous weather) the same as Small Meteor Showers (in removed weather)? Could someone please clarify?

Any assistance with spacedust, small meteorites and removed weather would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance if anyone can help! Sigma (talk) 11:31, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Wow, great work. I'll look into those questions, but this is really looking much improved.
Maybe also adding 'link=#Weather' to each image in the top section would be helpful. That'll make each icon link to the position on the page where the details are. --Katzeus (talk) 15:53, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
That's a good idea! I'll do that when I add the History section. Sigma (talk) 11:16, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
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Just so you're aware, I pulled a lot of the weather information out of the game assets. If you want to double-check for yourself, weather.config contains all possible weather types that each planet type can have.
As to your question about Spacedust: The problem is, what you see in Navigation is not 100% reliable when it comes to weather. When it comes to Asteroid Fields, Navigation displays nothing; however, the weather.config file tells a different story (if you look at the Weather section of Asteroid Field, the probabilities given there were pulled directly from weather.config).
Navigation is also unreliable when it comes to Scorched/Decayed planets because it doesn't display Junkstorm as a weather effect. The fact of the matter is, Junkstorm is still the predominant weather type of these planets according to weather.config (which informed the weather probabilities over at Decayed).
As to your question about Small Meteorites versus Small Meteor Showers, the difference between the two is with regard to how the meteorites fall. Small Meteor Showers (the removed version) has the meteorites falling in half-circle formations; however, meteor showers like that don't occur in the current version - rather, meteors in the current version's meteor showers fall randomly without any special patterns.
In short, the game is not totally transparent when it comes to weather, so you should be double-checking yourself using up-to-date game assets.
--QuaestComm (talk) 20:15, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for the explanation and for clearing things up! For the most part, what I wrote was based on what was displayed in-game -- that's probably what most players will see. I trust your explanations and findings, and please do update if I've missed something. I'll also check the config file you mentioned in case there are other things I've missed.
Weather unfortunately seems to be one of the areas where information is a bit scarce, particularly what was removed and when. Most weather is also visual with no functional effects, so maybe that's why? Simple weather has simple displays? Sigma (talk) 11:16, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
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I've added the History section, compiling the add/change/removed notes from before I edited the page. I'm not too sure about its usefulness or accuracy though. It's smaller than I thought it would be. Some of the v1.2.0 updates I think also occurred in v1.1.0, e.g. the Acid Rain and Cinder Shower changes. (Or possibly earlier verisons -- I've played v1.1.x and v1.2.x, not earlier versions.) But I don't want to edit anything I don't know for certain is correct/incorrect.
It would also be nice to synchronise and reformat the Removed Weather into the same as the Passive/Dangerous Weather. I.e. add an icon and planets it was found on. Is it possible to get such icons? I also note that the removed weather uses biome instead of planet - was earlier weather biome-specific instead of being planetary-wide? Sigma (talk) 20:59, 3 February 2017 (UTC)